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Mien visie op Wiktionair-nuie stijl

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Aon edereine dee hei belaank bij heet!

V'r zitte op 't memint in 'n euvergaanksfase, boebij Wiktionair compleet moot weure verbouwd. Veur wee hei neet ederen daag roondlöp: Wiktionair-awwe stijl bestoont oet mie es 100.000 lemmata, gooddeils mèt behölp vaan bots aongemaak, dèks vaan bedinkeleke kwaliteit en gestèld in 't "Hoeaglèmbörgsj", 'n kunstaol die mèt 't levend Limbörgs wieneg gemein heet. Edereine is 't wel ins euver de noedzaak um dat te veraandere, meh wie dat moot gebeure, dao-euver kinne de meininge versjèlle.

Wat te doen mèt de aw bagaasj

't Beleid wat Gebroeker:Ooswesthoesbes tot noe toe heet geveurd waor: aw lemmata hersjrieve of versjuive nao e Mofers lemma (boeveur per se Mofers? kom iech dalek op trök). Daobij heet heer gezörg tot de lemmata-awwe stijl lesteger te vinde woorte: "wèllekäöreg" röp noe ummer e Mofers woord op, en "Allen inhaajd" verwijs nao nui bewèrkde lemmata. (De veraanderde stijl vaan categorisere maak dat meugelek.)

Op dees meneer doort 't, wienie me us neet massaol kump bijstoon, evels nog jaore ietot de ganse Wiktionair is gezuverd. Jeh wat daan, kin me noe dinke. Nou, nog mer eine maond geleie laog haaf 't internèt euverhoup wie eine op Reddit kaom melde tot de Sjotse Wikipedia vol mèt nep-Sjots stoont. Dat heet geveurd tot 'n invasie aon lui dieste hei neet wèls höbbe. Zoeget kin us ouch gebäöre. Lui höbbe miech op sociaol media al gesproke euver de Limbörgse Wiktionair. Eus lemmata weure dus geleze, en 't hoof mer eine de kat de bel aon te binde en de hèl brik ouch bij us los.

'n Noedoplossing veur dit probleem waor um artikele vaan 'n woersjouwing te veurzien. Dat góng gemekelek door 'nen disclaimer in te bouwe in 't klassiek kopsjabloon. In dezen disclaimer steit lètterlek: "De gemeinsjap geit dees ingeng de kómmenden tied herzeen of wusje."

Belofte maakt schuld. Zoeget sjöp verwachtinge. 't Is good tot de lezer is gewoersjouwd, meh v'r kinnen 't noe neet mie jaorelaank laote stoon. V'r mote noe ech snelder es veurheer d'n awwe rommel goon sanere. Iech stèl daorum veur:

  • Tot v'r de ganse categorie "Lèmbörgsj waordj" beoerdeile, oongeveer wie dat noe al gebäört;
  • Tot v'r bij ingeng in aander taole:
    • De lemmavörm corrigere en
    • De verboge/verveugde/geaffixeerde vörm wisse.

Boeveur dat daan? Deh, v'r höbbe nog ummer mie es 110.000 vaan die ingeng, die kinne v'r neet allemaol hawwe. Noe en daan mote v'r eve good drop inhakke. Meh alles wisse zouw ouch zun zien. Persoenelek vin iech 't wel charmant tot v'r hei e.e.a. in 't Volapük en 't Alabama höbbe. Es v'r aon eder lemma 'n verbuiging/vervoging haange, zien die neet-lemmavörm ouch zoe wel te vinde en kin me op basis daovaan de beteikenis achterhole.

Ouch mèt dit beleid zal 't nog jaore dore ietot alles good is, meh 'ne kritische mètloerder zal, es 'r nao twie maond nog ins trökkump, wel versjèl zien.

Wie moot Wiktionair à la nouvelle droetzien?

Dit is 't lestegste vaan de twie. Iech bin 't hei naomelek oonins mèt wie Ooswesthoesbes dat tot noe toe heet gedoon, en mie veurstèl zouw beteikene tot e deil vaan zie werk weer mós weure oongedoon gemaak. Mien oplossinge zouwe de Wiktionair bruukbaar make veur de mieste Limbörgers, meh zjus get minder bruukbaar veur de inwoeners vaan ein plaots, Mofert.

De probleme zien inherent aon de status vaan 't Limbörgs es taol zoonder algemein geaccepteerde norm. Wat Owtb heet gedoon is edere nuien ingaank neet es Limbörgs, meh es Mofers inkleie, compleet mèt köpke, aonwiezinge veur 't gebruuk en bijbehurende categorieë. 't Idee is, num iech aon, tot aander gebrukers datzelfde kinne doen mèt hun dialek.

Dit is evels oonhajdbaar. 't Limbörgs verdeilt ziech in hoonderde dialekte die natuurlek allemaol versjèlle, meh in väöl dinger ouch samekloontere. Zouw me noe beveurbeeld op 't lemma beer veur alle Limbörgse dialekte e köpke wèlle touwveuge? 550 köpkes in totaol? (Beer beteikent in 't Oos-Limbörgs 'cervisia/bier', in 't Wes-Limbörgs 'ursus/beer' en in sommege dialekte allebei, meh in allemaol kump 't wel veur.) En alle bijbehurende categorieë? Dat zouw in de doezende loupe, dat kin de sofware neet ins aon! En wat is dao in gaodsnaom de zin vaan es de beteikenis ederskier weer dezelfde is en de oetspraok allein op - veurspeulbaar - details versjèlt?

Mie veurstèl is daorum veur gein köpkes mie touw te laote vaan plaotseleke dialekte, meh 't te hawwe bij "Limbörgs". Bij de definitie kinne v'r daan aongeve boe dat woord veurkump; miestens hoof dat neet op dörpsniveau.

Veur inkel väöl veurkoumende versjèlle (ie en oe versus ee en oo, wel of gei versjèl tösse de twie aas, oetspraok sjerplang ee en oo) zouwe v'r keertsjes kinne gebruke (die iemes daan wel iers moot make); daan kin me direk zègke: "de variant zieë kump in 't geel gebeed veur". In datzelfde lemma zouwste daan, oonder e köpke "variante", kinne verwieze nao... variante, 'tzelfde woord in aander dialekte.

De oetspraok maag gere debij, meh estebleef neet mèt zoe pienelek väöl details wie dat noe gebäört. Dat is allein geldeg veur 't Mofers en mesjiens (dat weit iech neet zeker) e paar naoberdörper, meh get wijerop ligk 't alweer aanders. En daobij: wat moot de neet-fonologisch oonderlagte gebroeker daomèt? Este accentloes Mofers, Árses, Diets-Heurs of Kermts wèls liere spreke, mooste dat toch neet vaan pepier doen. 'n Fonemische transcriptie moot volstoon. Ouch allewijl weurt gewèrk mèt sjuin striepe; waore die neet ouch gemeind veur fonemische i.p.v. fonetische transcriptie? En is 't plaotse vaan zoeväöl details neet zoewiezoe al dubieus?

Jeh meh, kin me noe zègke, moot al die info die noe drin is gezat daan verlore goon? Neet per se. Me kin veur eder Limbörgs dialek 'n speciaol paasj aonmake mèt dinger die me dao-euver moot weite. Beveurbeeld: de perceis oetspraok vaan de ao, de contour vaan sleip- en stoettoen of de realisatie vaan de /r/. (Apperpo: Owtb, diech transcribeers de r ummer es 'n rollende r; is dat neet versjrikkelek awwerwèts?) Dao kin me ziech daan inleze euver wat typisch is veur dat specifiek dialek.

Categorieë wie "Mestreechs woord" of "Mofers woord" mage veur miech wel blieve bestoon, meh allein es 't woord ech typisch is veur die plaots. Dat is neet 'tzelfde es "kump allein dao veur" (want in de praktijk is dat noets 't geval), meh dat beteikent wel tot e woord wat in 300 dialekte veurkump gein 300 (of zelfs nog mie) categorieë hoof te drage.

Zoe, dit waor 't wel eve. Iech geef touw tot iech 'nen hoop neet concreet höb gemaak, en tot dees oplossing ouch nui probleme opröp. Daorum is 't noe de beurt aon aandere; natuurlek aon Ooswesthoesbes, meh ouch aon aandere die dit touwvalleg leze en hei get euver kinne zègke. Steinbach (euverlègk) 28 sep 2020 15:40 (UTC)


O, iech höb nog get vergete: 't liek miech beter um ouch gein vertaolingscategorieë ("Categorie:Euverzètting nao 't dit-en-dat") mie aon artikele te haange. 't Gief doezende taole, dat beteikent potentieel ouch doezende vaan dat soort cats. Zuug allein mer de mie es dreihoonderd vertaolinge vaan "hoes" op d'n Ingelse Wiktionair. Steinbach (euverlègk) 28 sep 2020 16:19 (UTC)

Ich zal effekes kort reagere ("kort" waas de bedoeling, mer 't is toch oete handj geloupe :P):
Mit betrèkking toete aaj begaasj: Ich haw beraekendj det ich mit 30 pagina's per daag op ei jaor tied de HLI-categorie laeg kan haole. Det is ambitieus en ouch neet hieël realistisch mitte meneer wie ich noe te werk gaon. De anger (neet-HLI) pagina's zówwe daonao väöl flotter eweggaon, went die mótte dan versjuuf waere nao verveugingen en verbuginge. Det kan mitte hóngerde per daag.
Wiktionair à nouvelle: 't Liek mich vanzelfspraekendj det ich hie neet in mit kan gaon. Verbuginge, oetspraok, grammair en zagswies wiek sterk aaf van dörp toet dörp. Ich herinjer mich nag det v'r 't dao lès op Wikipedia euver hawwe; in 't Mofers besteit 'n ganse categorie mit Ø-mieëvaad, die ónbekindj zeen in väöl anger dialekte. Vergaet neet det 't Mestreechs ouch zien eige online waordebook haet, wiezoea zów det veur 't Mofers neet moge? Boetedet is 't ouch juus mien intresse veur 't Mofers waat mich d'n drive guuef veur dit te doon (vergeliekbaar mitten drive veur 't HLI, waat deze kraom inne ieëste plaats haet veroearzaak).
Die 550 köpkes, det zal waal mitvalle. Mich liek 't det v'r hie ouch waal 'ne middewaeg kónne vinje. Waat ich veurslaon is det eder dialek gewuuen zien eige köpke maag höbben es 't lemma oetgebrèdj opgeboewdj wuuert (wie ich det veur 't Mofers doon) en det v'r dem dan centraal linke (wie vanoet 'n pagina in 't AGL) of besjrieve. De euverzèttinge vanoet anger tale (wie language > sjpraok) gaon dan nao 't AGL, en vanoet dao kónne v'r anger dialekte bereike. Ouch kan me daoveur keze dialekte die väöl opein lieke biejein te pakke; de dialekte van Hael en Häör wieke neet biezunjer väöl vanein aaf, die kónne beveurbeeldj ónger e köpke Häörs (breid).
Dan de oetspraok: dees is specefiek veur 't Mofers; 't Mofers wiek van eder dialek inne ómgaeving aaf en dus is de oetspraok in Ech/Berg/Postert/Remunj in väöl gevalle volstenjig anges. De oetspraok is semi-fonemisch opgesjreve; de bedoeling waas nag 'n Wiktionair-pagina aan te make worop de IPA oetgelag wuuert, meh det haw in mienen optiek gèn prioriteit. De kuues veure oetspraok op dees meneer weer te gaeven is veur 't Mofers good te kónne besjrieve; väöl (ouch intersante) details zeen hiebie eweggelaote. Wie bie eder fonemische transcriptie geit de kuues dan veur /r/, went de oetspraok is historisch /r ~ ɾ/ en pas later vanaaf de jaore 40/50 versjuuf nao ~/ʁ/. De rollendje r kump zeker nag veur in Mofert! Detzelvendje geldj ouch veure zwaor (Ingelse) /w/, twieë-accenttupige wäörd, 't eweglaote van "pseudo"-auslautverhärtung enne oetspraok van /aw/. Wiejer gaon mit 't ómboewe nao ei centraal köpke veur 't Limbörgs intersante en relevante categorieje, wie Categorie:Toeankóntrasterendje wäörd verlaore).
Mit betrèkking toet de euverzèttinge: dit kan centraler. Veer kinne daoveur keze det v'r de euverzèttinge per beteikenis (went wäörd wie "vaer" höbbe noe eimaol mieër es ein beteikenis) in e sjebluuenke zitten en det v'r det dan ónger eder köpke kónne linke; get saortgelieks gebeurt ouch op de.wikt (meh dan alles apaart). Die categorieje zeen inderdaad neet hieël zinvol veur gewuuen laezers, meh waal hieël wichtig veure statistieke. Det is veur mich de insigste meneer veur bie te haje wie oos vertaalbestandj daoveur steit. Optioneel kónne v'r dees categorieje behaje, meh dan es verborge categorieje (ich mein get wie __HIDDENCAT__ oppe categoriepagina neerzitte?).
Kort samegevatj: 't ewegsmiete van verbugingspagina's kan mich gènne reet intersere, 't eweghaole van 't Mofers waal. V'r kinne alles get centraalder make door AGL-lemma's es 'ne saort van hub aan te ligke, wovanoet edere gebroeker zien eige dialek op die pagina kort kan besjrieve, óf op 'n apaarte pagina oetveurig. --Ooswesthoesbes (euverlègk) 29 sep 2020 06:39 (UTC)
't Alderbelangriekste vergaet ich; de ganse raeje det ich 't zoea höb aangepak. Det is namelik det vanoet Mofert al langer 't idee besteit digitaal te gaon mit 't Mofers Waordebook; det kump aevel neet vanne gróndj: bieje auteursgerechtigdje (is det e waord?) óntbrik digitaal kinnis en tied. Det haet mich daotoe gezatj det zelf mer aan te pakke mitte Diekke van Bakkes es leidraod, meh sónger de stiel/fragmente etc. euver te numme, zodet v'r neet mit auteursrech te maken höbbe. 't Groeat veurdeil van 'ne wiki ten opzichte van e pepiere book is des te neet begrens bös. 't Zów zunj zeen dao gèh gebroek van te make; ganse verbugingen en verveuginge mit oetspraok veur edere vorm zeen gei perbleem, went veer höbbe toch alle plaats veur die kwiet te kónne. Wie ich de ieëste pagina's ómgezatj haw, höb ich die ouch laote zeen ane luuj en de reacties wore hieël positief. Väöl luuj höbben aangegaeve 't te wille gebroeke es zie 'n teks in 't Mofers sjrieven of aaj wäörd willen opzeuke. Det bringk dus ouch laezers mit es se-n 't tegooj wèts te promote; veur Jan mitte korten achternaam haet 't je gein zin mit zoea groeat projek aan te vange. 't Grótste naodeil is ouch wo 't veural wringk mit Steinbach zien visie; es se-n 't wils promoten es Moferse "richlien" mót ouch alles in 't Mofers staon op die pagina ónger 't köpke Mofers en 't mót toegenkelik zeen (es ich 't Nederlandjs waord "altijd" induuj mót ich flot bie "altied"/"ummer"#Mofers oetkómme; det geit totaal neet same mit Wiktionair à nouvelle. 'n Direkte oplossing hieveur höb ich nanneet. --Ooswesthoesbes (euverlègk) 29 sep 2020 12:10 (UTC)
Iech zouw hei gisteraovend op antwoorde, meh dat is neet devaan gekoume. Daan mer noe.
Diech vreugs miech boeveur 't geine Mofersen online dictionair maag geve, es 'ne Mestreechse al besteit. Deh, dat is hiel sumpel: dit subdomein is t'r besjikking gestèld veur 't Limburgs, neet veur 't Mofers. De Wikimedia Foundation heet dit domein oets aongemaak veur de ganse Limbörgse taol mèt mie es ei mieljoen sprekers, neet veur 't dialek vaan ei dörp mèt e paar doezend sprekers. Wieste Wiktionair noe aon 't opbouwe bis, slut 't de facto sprekers vaan aander dialekte boete, al waor dat natuurlek neet dien bedoeling. Mèt 'ne ganse Mofersen dictionair online, pienelek compleet mèt taolkundege details die 'ne neet-fonoloog mèt de groetste meujte nog neet versteit, dinke sprekers vaan örges aanders al gaw: deh, laot mer.
Daan op dien aander punte. Oet 'n opmerking op mien euverlègkpaasj höb iech al begrepe tot mie veurstèl neet gans eindujeg (?) waor. Iech wèl zier zeker neet allein lemma's in 't AGL en iech dink tot beveurbeeld zee, zie, zieë, ziè, ziea, zjè, zeë allemaol mote weure aongemaak. Allein: es e woord in lètterlek hoonderde dialekte 'tzelfde weurt gesjreve, zeen iech neet in boeveur me veur eder dialek weer 'n aander köpke moot make. En nog ins: iech weit nog neet of de Wikimedia-software zoeväöl categorieë wel aonkin.
E woord wie beer zouw veur miech mer twie köpkes euver mote hawwe, ein veur 't bies en ein veur d'n draank. Oonder allebei de köpkes giefste daan aon boe dat woord veurkump, 't leefste mèt (nog te make) keertsjes deneve. Wijer nao oonder giefste daan aon, mèt link, wie dat woord in aander dialekte klink; in dit geval zouw 't dus links nao baer en beër mote geve, zoewie nao bier en beier.
De oetspraok vaan allebei de wäörd zouw me daan mote geve es /beːʁ/ of evt. /beːr/. Daoneve zouwe daan twie links mote versjijne, eine nao 'n paasj mèt algemeinen oetlag euver 't IPA, 'nen aandere mèt "wie zit dit in dien eige dialek. Zuug [[Wiktionary:Limbörgse dialekte|hie]]. Vaan dao-oet zouwste weer kinne verwieze nao beveurbeeld "Wiktionary:Mestreechs" of "Wiktionary:Mofers", boe de perceis ins en oets vaan eder dialek weure oetgelag (oetspraok, meh ouch aander versjèlle - wat de gebruker moot wete um Wiktionary veur zien eige dialek te kinne gebruke).
Es iech d'n tied vin, kin iech binnekort wel e paar tes-lemma's in mien gebrukersruimte aonmake um te tuine wie iech dat perceis veur miech zeen. Steinbach (euverlègk) 30 sep 2020 08:31 (UTC)
Aojao, iech höb nog get vergete te zègke: 'n categorie wie Categorie:Toeankóntrasterendje wäörd kin daan gewoen blieve bestoon. Dao valle daan gewoen alle wäörd in die in n'importe welk Limbörgs dialek mèt behölp vaan toen oeterein weure gehawwe. De gebruker kin daan de lemma's aonklikke veur te zeen boe dat veurkump. Steinbach (euverlègk) 30 sep 2020 08:51 (UTC)
@Mofers: Det is op zich gein argument taengen 't laote staon van 't werk wie ich 't noe höb gedaon, ónger de veurwaerd det de hub-pagina's wie ich ze höb besjreve (en woots toe ouch veur pleits) ouch aangemaak waere. Mit 't ómboewe van Mofers nao AGL geit zowiezo e gaodsvermeugen aan infermaasje verlaore. Wiejer deil ich neet 't geveul det anger spraekers aafhäöke. Veer höbben hie zelfs inne HLI-tied emes gadj dae biedrages in 't Echters leverdje; en 't aandeil luuj die ieës oppe Wiktionair kómme sónger ieës langs Wikipedia te zeen gewaes is klein; zeker veur 'n taal wie 't Limbörgs. Ouch kónne veer ummer inne Sitenotice e berichskes zitte det veer op zeuk zeen nao mitwirkers die ouch anger dialekte behieërsje mit e linkske nao 'n oetligkpagina wo ze ouch doorverweze waere nao dees pagina veur vraoge te stèlle.
@Zie/zieë: prima; 't categorieprobleem verwach ich neet. De kans det emes anges e waord zoea oetveurig geit ómsjrieve wie ich det doon is klein; gezwiege veur 550 dialekte. Zowiezoea óntbrik bie väöl dialekte 't brónnewerk m.b.t. grammatica/oetspraok/vocabulair etc.
@Beer: 't waord "beer" allein getuug al van wie ingewikkeldj 't is waas toe wils. 't Waord "beer" is neet eindujig; bie väöl luuj is 't allein 't drinke, mer in Mestreech e.ó. haet 't twieë beteikenisse; oppe Zelfkantj beteikentj 't waord weer gaar nieks. Zoea kries te dus eine puinzooj es se-n alles ónger ei köpke Limburgs smiets.
@IPA: Dao óntbrik al de tonaliteit! Dan toch minstes /bè:r/ haop ich :)
@Toeankóntras: Dan verdwientj de functie vanne categorie. Väöl wäörd kómme neet euverein. E sjoealveurbeeldj vanne sleip/stoeat-oppositie is "paerd"/"peerd", meh veur ós in Midde-Limbörg is dit waord gaar neet toeankóntrasterendj... Wiejer is in 't Mestreechs nag spraok van braeking en analoogwirking: knien - knijns, boum - buim, wien - wijne zeen allemaol neet toeankóntrasterendj in 't Mestreechs, meh waal in 't Mofers (m.o.v. boum in moderner Mofers); en dan höbbe v'r 't allein mer euvere mieëvaadsvörm.
Ich kiek oet nao de tes-lemma's :) Innen tössentied wil ich toch weer wiejer gaon mit HLI eweg te wirke, anges ligk det te lang stil. Ich haop det v'r hie op 'n sjappelike meneer oetkómme. --Ooswesthoesbes (euverlègk) 30 sep 2020 11:07 (UTC)

Wiki of functions naming contest

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29 sep 2020 21:16 (UTC)

Eve gans get aanders

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Boeveur hèt dees paasj "In 't nuujs"? Dat liekent miech toch neet de zjuste naom. Kinne v'r dit neet beter herneume nao "De kaffee" of nog get aanders wat de laojing dèk (ojoj wat is dit 'n Hollandse oetdrökking!)? Steinbach (euverlègk) 30 sep 2020 08:53 (UTC)

Dae link waas d'n insigste dae nag euver waas langs de ziejkantj innen tied det d'n insigsten admin inaktief waas. Versjuve nao "De kaffee" kan, meh den mót ouch alles oppe meta waeren aangepas, zodet de bots de berichte oppe juuste plaats neerzitte. Det is 't meiste werk... --Ooswesthoesbes (euverlègk) 30 sep 2020 10:56 (UTC)

Call for feedback about Wikimedia Foundation Bylaws changes and Board candidate rubric

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Haj. Apologies if you are not reading this message in your native language. Help mit 't euverzètte nao dien spraok.

Today the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees starts two calls for feedback. One is about changes to the Bylaws mainly to increase the Board size from 10 to 16 members. The other one is about a trustee candidate rubric to introduce new, more effective ways to evaluate new Board candidates. The Board welcomes your comments through 26 October. For more details, check the full announcement.

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Important: maintenance operation on October 27

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Wiki of functions naming contest - Round 2

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5 nov 2020 22:11 (UTC)

2021 enquête over de verlanglijst van de gemeenschap

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De 2021 enquête over de verlanglijst van de gemeenschap is nu geopend! De enquête is de manier waarmee gemeenschappen bepalen waar het Community Tech team volgend jaar aan moet gaan werken. We moedigen iedereen aan om voorstellen in te dienen voor de deadline op 30 november, of om te reageren op andere voorstellen om ze te helpen verbeteren. De gemeenschappen stemmen op de voorstellen tussen 8 december en 21 december.

Het Community Tech team is gefocussed op hulpmiddelen voor ervaren Wikimedia bewerkers. U kunt voorstellen in elke taal opstellen en wij vertalen deze. Bedankt en we kijken uit naar uw voorstellen!

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Wikidata descriptions changes to be included more often in Recent Changes and Watchlist

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2020 Coolest Tool Award Ceremony on December 11th

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Onderzoek naar het Verlanglijstje van de Wikipedia-gemeenschap 2021

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SGrabarczuk (WMF)

11 dec 2020 15:05 (UTC)

Moving Wikimania 2021 to a Virtual Event

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Haj. Apologies if you are not reading this message in your native language. Help mit 't euverzètte nao dien spraok. Danke!

Wikimania will be a virtual event this year, and hosted by a wide group of community members. Whenever the next in-person large gathering is possible again, the ESEAP Core Organizing Team will be in charge of it. Stay tuned for more information about how you can get involved in the planning process and other aspects of the event. Please read the longer version of this announcement on wikimedia-l.

ESEAP Core Organizing Team, Wikimania Steering Committee, Wikimedia Foundation Events Team, 27 jan 2021 15:16 (UTC)

Project Grant Open Call

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This is the announcement for the Project Grants program open call that started on January 11, with the submission deadline of February 10, 2021.
This first open call will be focussed on Community Organizing proposals. A second open call focused on research and software proposals is scheduled from February 15 with a submission deadline of March 16, 2021.

For the Round 1 open call, we invite you to propose grant applications that fall under community development and organizing (offline and online) categories. Project Grant funds are available to support individuals, groups, and organizations to implement new experiments and proven ideas, from organizing a better process on your wiki, coordinating a campaign or editathon series to providing other support for community building. We offer the following resources to help you plan your project and complete a grant proposal:

Program officers are also available to offer individualized proposal support upon request. Contact us if you would like feedback or more information.

We are excited to see your grant ideas that will support our community and make an impact on the future of Wikimedia projects. Put your idea into motion, and submit your proposal by February 10, 2021!

Please feel free to get in touch with questions about getting started with your grant application, or about serving on the Project Grants Committee. Contact us at projectgrants wikimedia.org. Please help us translate this message to your local language. MediaWiki message delivery (euverlègk) 28 jan 2021 08:01 (UTC)

Hulp gevraagd voor vertaling vanuit het Limburgs naar het Nederlands

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In de Mariakapel van Vilt bij Valkenburg kwam ik deze Limburgse tekst tegen. De tekst zou ik graag woordelijk vertalen en als vertaling eronder toevoegen aan het artikel over deze kapel op Wikipedia, zodat iedereen de tekst kan begrijpen. De algemene strekking van de tekst is me duidelijk, maar twee woorden kan ik niet helemaal plaatsen. Wie kan me hierbij helpen? Ik heb eronder in het Nederlands de vertaling erbij gezet zoals ik denk dat die is en de twee woorden die me niet duidelijk zijn met puntjes aangegeven. Dank! Romaine (euverlègk) 3 fib 2021 05:27 (UTC)

BLIEF EFFE BIE SLIEVRUIKE SJTAON EIN WEESGEGROETJE BAE DAN KENT GÈR WEER WIEJER GAON
Blijf even bij ... staan, een weesgegroetje ..., dan kun je weer verder gaan.
@Romaine: Blijf even bij Slevrouwke (=onze lieve vrouwtje=Maria) staan (en) bid een weesgegroetje; dan kunt u weer verdergaan. "bae" is hier dus een zuidelijkere vorm voor "baeje" :) --Ooswesthoesbes (euverlègk) 3 fib 2021 07:13 (UTC)
@Ooswesthoesbes, dank! Ik heb het aan het artikel toegevoegd. Romaine (euverlègk) 3 fib 2021 07:25 (UTC)

Wikifunctions logo contest

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2 mie 2021 01:52 (UTC)

Universal Code of Conduct – 2021 consultations

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Universal Code of Conduct Phase 2

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The Universal Code of Conduct (UCoC) provides a universal baseline of acceptable behavior for the entire Wikimedia movement and all its projects. The project is currently in Phase 2, outlining clear enforcement pathways. You can read more about the whole project on its project page.

Drafting Committee: Call for applications

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The Wikimedia Foundation is recruiting volunteers to join a committee to draft how to make the code enforceable. Volunteers on the committee will commit between 2 and 6 hours per week from late April through July and again in October and November. It is important that the committee be diverse and inclusive, and have a range of experiences, including both experienced users and newcomers, and those who have received or responded to, as well as those who have been falsely accused of harassment.

To apply and learn more about the process, see Universal Code of Conduct/Drafting committee.

2021 community consultations: Notice and call for volunteers / translators

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From 5 April – 5 May 2021 there will be conversations on many Wikimedia projects about how to enforce the UCoC. We are looking for volunteers to translate key material, as well as to help host consultations on their own languages or projects using suggested key questions. If you are interested in volunteering for either of these roles, please contact us in whatever language you are most comfortable.

To learn more about this work and other conversations taking place, see Universal Code of Conduct/2021 consultations.

-- Xeno (WMF) (talk) 5 apr 2021 22:26 (UTC)

Line numbering coming soon to all wikis

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-- Johanna Strodt (WMDE) 12 apr 2021 15:09 (UTC)

Suggested Values

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Timur Vorkul (WMDE) 22 apr 2021 14:08 (UTC)

Universal Code of Conduct News – Issue 1

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Universal Code of Conduct News
Issue 1, June 2021Read the full newsletter


Welcome to the first issue of Universal Code of Conduct News! This newsletter will help Wikimedians stay involved with the development of the new code, and will distribute relevant news, research, and upcoming events related to the UCoC.

Please note, this is the first issue of UCoC Newsletter which is delivered to all subscribers and projects as an announcement of the initiative. If you want the future issues delivered to your talk page, village pumps, or any specific pages you find appropriate, you need to subscribe here.

You can help us by translating the newsletter issues in your languages to spread the news and create awareness of the new conduct to keep our beloved community safe for all of us. Please add your name here if you want to be informed of the draft issue to translate beforehand. Your participation is valued and appreciated.

  • Affiliate consultations – Wikimedia affiliates of all sizes and types were invited to participate in the UCoC affiliate consultation throughout March and April 2021. (continue reading)
  • 2021 key consultations – The Wikimedia Foundation held enforcement key questions consultations in April and May 2021 to request input about UCoC enforcement from the broader Wikimedia community. (continue reading)
  • Roundtable discussions – The UCoC facilitation team hosted two 90-minute-long public roundtable discussions in May 2021 to discuss UCoC key enforcement questions. More conversations are scheduled. (continue reading)
  • Phase 2 drafting committee – The drafting committee for the phase 2 of the UCoC started their work on 12 May 2021. Read more about their work. (continue reading)
  • Diff blogs – The UCoC facilitators wrote several blog posts based on interesting findings and insights from each community during local project consultation that took place in the 1st quarter of 2021. (continue reading)

--MediaWiki message delivery (euverlègk) 11 jun 2021 23:06 (UTC)

Wikimania 2021: Individual Program Submissions

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Dear all,

Wikimania 2021 will be hosted virtually for the first time in the event's 15-year history. Since there is no in-person host, the event is being organized by a diverse group of Wikimedia volunteers that form the Core Organizing Team (COT) for Wikimania 2021.

Event Program - Individuals or a group of individuals can submit their session proposals to be a part of the program. There will be translation support for sessions provided in a number of languages. See more information here.

Below are some links to guide you through;

Please note that the deadline for submission is 18th June 2021.

Announcements- To keep up to date with the developments around Wikimania, the COT sends out weekly updates. You can view them in the Announcement section here.

Office Hour - If you are left with questions, the COT will be hosting some office hours (in multiple languages), in multiple time-zones, to answer any programming questions that you might have. Details can be found here.

Best regards,

MediaWiki message delivery (euverlègk) 16 jun 2021 04:19 (UTC)

On behalf of Wikimania 2021 Core Organizing Team

Editing news 2021 #2

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24 jun 2021 14:15 (UTC)

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SGrabarczuk (WMF) 27 jun 2021 01:19 (UTC)

Universal Code of Conduct - Enforcement draft guidelines review

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The Universal Code of Conduct Phase 2 drafting committee would like comments about the enforcement draft guidelines for the Universal Code of Conduct (UCoC). This review period is planned for 17 August 2021 through 17 October 2021.

These guidelines are not final but you can help move the progress forward. The committee will revise the guidelines based upon community input.

Comments can be shared in any language on the draft review talk page and multiple other venues. Community members are encouraged to organize conversations in their communities.

There are planned live discussions about the UCoC enforcement draft guidelines:

Wikimania 2021 session (recorded 16 August)
Conversation hours - 24 August, 31 August, 7 September @ 03:00 UTC & 14:00 UTC
Roundtable calls - 18 September @ 03:00 UTC & 15:00 UTC

Summaries of discussions will be posted every two weeks here.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Xeno (WMF) 17 aug 2021 22:59 (UTC)

Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election has come to an end

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Thank you for participating in the 2021 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election! Voting closed August 31 at 23:59. The official data, including the four most voted candidates, will be announced as soon as the Elections Committee completes their review of the ballots. The official announcement of the new trustees appointed will happen later, once the selected candidates have been confirmed by the Board.

6,946 community members from 216 wiki projects have voted. This makes 10.2% global participation, 1.1% higher than in the last Board elections. In 2017, 5167 people from 202 wiki projects cast their vote. A full analysis is planned to be published in a few days when the confirmed results are announced. In the meantime, you can check the data produced during the election.

Diversity was an important goal with these elections. Messages about the Board election were translated into 61 languages. This outreach worked well. There were 70 communities with eligible voters voting in this election for the first time. With your help, next year’s Board of Trustees election will be even better.

1 sep 2021 20:58 (UTC)

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Noe Ooswesthoesbes zoe hel bezeg is veur de Wiktionair vaan "Hoeaglèmbörgsj" te oontdoen, mote v'r ouch ins e nui logo make. De neet-aongepasde pagina's zien aofgesjermp, dao kin me neet zoemer bij, meh 't logo is euveral te zien. Es v'r zelf geint kinne make, kinne v'r 't hei aonvraoge; daonao moot me op Phabricator e verzeuk achterlaote um 't logo te wissele.
Klei vräöske nog wel. Mote v'r daan "de vrieën dictionair" of "'t vrie waordebook" goon hete? "Dictionair" zouw aonslete bij de naom en is normaal in Mestreech en Belsj Limbörg. In 't groetste deil vaan Nederlands Limbörg evels - en in dat gebeed woene toch de mieste sprekers - zal waordebook beter weure verstande, dus daoveur is ouch get te zègke. Wat tunks uuch? Steinbach (euverlègk) 2 sep 2021 20:45 (UTC)

't Waord "dictionair" is inderdaad bepirk versprèdj en wuuert ouch neet euveral verstange. 't Waord "waordebook" daotaenge wuuert neet euveral zoea mekkelik gebroek, meh waal euveral verstange, dus det haet waal miene veurkeur. --Ooswesthoesbes (euverlègk) 3 sep 2021 06:15 (UTC)
Veurzeuk ingedeend bij Commons. Steinbach (euverlègk) 3 sep 2021 20:42 (UTC)

@Steinbach: Ich zeen det 't nuuj logo gemaak is. Veur det ouch hie oppe site te kriege mós m'n ieëren ummer Plaetje:Wiki.png aanpasse, meh zoea te zeen steit bestenj inlajen op oetgezatj, dus ich höb sjrump det v'r hieveur de óntwikkelieërs mótte gaon lestigvalle. --Ooswesthoesbes (euverlègk) 20 sep 2021 15:40 (UTC)

Dat klop, 't logo is veerdeg. Me moot evels allewijl aon de developers (!!!) vraoge veur dat te verandere; dao is dus 'n taak op Phabricator veur nujeg. Steinbach (euverlègk) 20 sep 2021 15:44 (UTC)
Ich zal kieken of ich vandaag effekes op Phabricator e dingsken aanmaak. --Ooswesthoesbes (euverlègk) 21 sep 2021 06:42 (UTC)
Hie kóns te-n 'm vinje :) --Ooswesthoesbes (euverlègk) 21 sep 2021 10:26 (UTC)


@Steinbach: Volges alles mót 't noe opgelos zeen, meh bie mich steit nag ummer 't aad logo, ouch naodet ich vernuudj höb. Wie is det bie dich? --Ooswesthoesbes (euverlègk) 14 okt 2021 07:55 (UTC)

Aoh, iech zeen 't nui logo wel! Höbste diene buffer al geleeg? Steinbach (euverlègk) 14 okt 2021 09:01 (UTC)
Es toe 't nuuj logo zuus, dan is 't good :) Mien kinnis hèltj bie F5 op en det duit nieks. 't Zal zich van zich waal oplosse dan. --Ooswesthoesbes (euverlègk) 14 okt 2021 13:31 (UTC)
Dui mer raak. Steinbach (euverlègk) 14 okt 2021 15:44 (UTC)
Ouch det wirk neet, meh de ervaring lieërt det d'n tied det waal oetzeuk veur mich :) --Ooswesthoesbes (euverlègk) 15 okt 2021 06:05 (UTC)

The 2022 Community Wishlist Survey will happen in January

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SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 7 sep 2021 00:24 (UTC)

Call for Candidates for the Movement Charter Drafting Committee ending 14 September 2021

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Movement Strategy announces the Call for Candidates for the Movement Charter Drafting Committee. The Call opens August 2, 2021 and closes September 14, 2021.

The Committee is expected to represent diversity in the Movement. Diversity includes gender, language, geography, and experience. This comprises participation in projects, affiliates, and the Wikimedia Foundation.

English fluency is not required to become a member. If needed, translation and interpretation support is provided. Members will receive an allowance to offset participation costs. It is US$100 every two months.

We are looking for people who have some of the following skills:

  • Know how to write collaboratively. (demonstrated experience is a plus)
  • Are ready to find compromises.
  • Focus on inclusion and diversity.
  • Have knowledge of community consultations.
  • Have intercultural communication experience.
  • Have governance or organization experience in non-profits or communities.
  • Have experience negotiating with different parties.

The Committee is expected to start with 15 people. If there are 20 or more candidates, a mixed election and selection process will happen. If there are 19 or fewer candidates, then the process of selection without election takes place.

Will you help move Wikimedia forward in this important role? Submit your candidacy here. Please contact strategy2030 wikimedia.org with questions.

Xeno (WMF) 10 sep 2021 17:10 (UTC)

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Talk to the Community Tech

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Hello!

As we have recently announced, we, the team working on the Community Wishlist Survey, would like to invite you to an online meeting with us. It will take place on September 15th, 23:00 UTC on Zoom, and will last an hour. Click here to join.

Agenda

Format

The meeting will not be recorded or streamed. Notes without attribution will be taken and published on Meta-Wiki. The presentation (first three points in the agenda) will be given in English.

We can answer questions asked in English, French, Polish, and Spanish. If you would like to ask questions in advance, add them on the Community Wishlist Survey talk page or send to sgrabarczuk@wikimedia.org.

Natalia Rodriguez (the Community Tech manager) will be hosting this meeting.

Invitation link

See you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (Euverlèk) 11 sep 2021 03:04 (UTC)

Voting for the election for the members for the Movement Charter drafting committee is now open

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Voting for the election for the members for the Movement Charter drafting committee is now open. In total, 70 Wikimedians from around the world are running for 7 seats in these elections.

Voting is open from October 12 to October 24, 2021.

The committee will consist of 15 members in total: The online communities vote for 7 members, 6 members will be selected by the Wikimedia affiliates through a parallel process, and 2 members will be appointed by the Wikimedia Foundation. The plan is to assemble the committee by November 1, 2021.

Learn about each candidate to inform your vote in the language that you prefer: <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Candidates>

Learn about the Drafting Committee: <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee>

We are piloting a voting advice application for this election. Click yourself through the tool and you will see which candidate is closest to you! Check at <https://mcdc-election-compass.toolforge.org/>

Read the full announcement: <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Elections>

Go vote at SecurePoll on: <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Elections>

Best,

Movement Strategy & Governance Team, Wikimedia Foundation

Xeno (WMF) 15 okt 2021 01:53 (UTC)

Learn how Movement Strategy Implementation Grants can support your Movement Strategy plans

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Movement Strategy Implementation grants now provide more than $2,000 USD to put Movement Strategy plans into action. Find out more about Movement Strategy Implementation grants, the criteria, and how to apply.

MNadzikiewicz (WMF) (talk) 13:30, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Meet the new Movement Charter Drafting Committee members

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The Movement Charter Drafting Committee election and selection processes are complete.

The committee will convene soon to start its work. The committee can appoint up to three more members to bridge diversity and expertise gaps.

If you are interested in engaging with Movement Charter drafting process, follow the updates on Meta and join the Telegram group.

With thanks from the Movement Strategy and Governance team

5 nov 2021 15:53 (UTC)

Upcoming Call for Feedback about the Board of Trustees elections

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You can find this message translated into additional languages on Meta-wiki.

The Board of Trustees is preparing a call for feedback about the upcoming Board Elections, from January 7 - February 10, 2022.

While details will be finalized the week before the call, we have confirmed at least two questions that will be asked during this call for feedback:

  • What is the best way to ensure fair representation of emerging communities among the Board?
  • What involvement should candidates have during the election?

While additional questions may be added, the Movement Strategy and Governance team wants to provide time for community members and affiliates to consider and prepare ideas on the confirmed questions before the call opens. We apologize for not having a complete list of questions at this time. The list of questions should only grow by one or two questions. The intention is to not overwhelm the community with requests, but provide notice and welcome feedback on these important questions.

Do you want to help organize local conversation during this Call?

Contact the Movement Strategy and Governance team on Meta, on Telegram, or via email at msg wikimedia.org.

Reach out if you have any questions or concerns. The Movement Strategy and Governance team will be minimally staffed until January 3. Please excuse any delayed response during this time. We also recognize some community members and affiliates are offline during the December holidays. We apologize if our message has reached you while you are on holiday.

Best,

Movement Strategy and Governance

Danke. Xeno (WMF) 27 dec 2021 17:50 (UTC)